brigette, kade, and nicole (the legend of zelda and etc) created by tim weeks
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Savestate is a comic written and drawn by Tim Weeks. It follows the misadventures of siblings Kade and Nicole.

With the release of Pokémon Bank, Kade decides to bring his Pokémon from the first and second gen games to the 6th Gen via some creative coding. What's the worse thing that can happen?

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    dreamtallica said:
    wonder how it would split gen 1 Special stat into gen 2+ special attack and defense

    Welp, looks like it's Nerd Time again... :I

    Nerd Time

    So, since you are already able to trade pokémon between Gen 1 and Gen 2 (forwards AND backwards, at that), it's simple enough to go with how that trade system already does it.

    In Gen 2, each species of pokémon has a new base stat added. For some, it was Special Defense while the other Special base stat became Special Attack, for others it was the inverse, and for a third group, the new base stat was exactly the same as the old one (so their Special Attack and Defense were the same).

    That's the easy part because that's all handled on the game side; it looks up the pokémon's species to get its base stats from the games code, and then looks at the individual pokémon's data structure to get its DV's and Stat Exp. to calculate out the pokémon's full stats (those are like IV's and EV's, but it's the pre-Gen 3 system, so people like me like to differentiate with older ).

    The problem was with the aforementioned data structure, because if you want to trade between Gen 1 and Gen 2, you need to be able to send the EXACT same information both ways. You can't just remove an entire stat's DV or Stat Exp. and then expect it to come back when you trade it back, so they just used the single Special DV and Stat Exp. for both Special stats in Gen 2.

    If you're only transferring forward and never want them back, it is then incredibly simple to just duplicate the Special DV into Special Attack and Special Defense IV's. And continuing to take the easy route, you could leave all of the pokémon's EV's blank. The ability and nature can be of your choosing (if Game Freak ever decided to do this officially, I'd imagine a little in-game questionnaire about "What do you think the pokémon you're about to meet is like?")

    Everything else is in place for the transfer, one way or another. Even held items in Gen 1 pokémon. You could sometimes find a Gen 1 pokémon traded to Gen 2 holding an item, and if you traded a pokémon back to Gen 1 holding an item, it would come back to Gen 2 with that same item! This was because at the very end of a Pokemon's data structure in Gen 1, there was a part that listed that pokémon's species capture rate, which was utterly useless because 1) it's already captured and 2) even if it were possible to catch already caught pokémon, they could just look it up in the code according to the pokémon's species. In Gen 2, however that bit of information is repurposed to store what item the pokémon is holding, so even if it isn't used in Gen 1, it's still pretty useful.

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  • Aaaand right off the bat were looking at someone who doesnt know how Missingno (and its counterparts in any other gen) work but is pretending to know shit. Missingno is basically an unknown integer pokemon that is just (in gen one at least) listed as over the normal 151 pokemon and when transferred to later generations will simply become whatever pokemon its dex (forget off the top of my head if its the dex number or internal index number, but I think its the latter) number is assigned to. This can be seen as simply as transferring a Missingno to any gen 2 game via the time capsule.

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  • Foxmoan said:
    Aaaand right off the bat were looking at someone who doesnt know how Missingno (and its counterparts in any other gen) work but is pretending to know shit. Missingno is basically an unknown integer pokemon that is just (in gen one at least) listed as over the normal 151 pokemon and when transferred to later generations will simply become whatever pokemon its dex (forget off the top of my head if its the dex number or internal index number, but I think its the latter) number is assigned to. This can be seen as simply as transferring a Missingno to any gen 2 game via the time capsule.

    That's common knowledge, but a lot of us like to headcanon it as its own species anyway because we like it, are fascinated by it, or got attached to ours.

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  • foxmoan said:
    Aaaand right off the bat were looking at someone who doesnt know how Missingno (and its counterparts in any other gen) work but is pretending to know shit.

    Or maybe it was simply a joke?

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